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Monday, August 30, 2010
Sunday, August 29, 2010
RESPONSE TO A GOLD TRADER
Excerpt:
"We the people will have been financially enslaved and not feast at Soros' and Obama's table.
AND gold or other precious metal will not be the answer. Whoever tries to buy it will have to pay for it with WHAT? A worthless currency. So your gold holdings would be worth a few cents at best or in fact NOTHING.
And efforts to barter it, or silver, will receive some response to start with but when it becomes a useless piece of metal that nobody can use, like any paper currency, then pure barter of an item of service will become the going "currency" or locally printed "money scripp" good for your neighborhood or municipality only. These might combine into slightly larger communities."
Trader's Reply:
"So your gold holdings would be worth a few cents at best or in fact NOTHING".
You have said this before. It was BS then, and it's BS again. An ounce of Gold will always be worth about 500 loaves of bread, the finest suit of clothes, a month's rent for a family of four in a middle-level house.
The only exception would be if the government were ever able to pry all the gold out of private hands, and to criminalize its use. The only way that could happen would be if the government offered a premium grubstake for people to turn it in. Otherwise, it will always be out there on the black market, holding its value when nothing else will.
RESPONSE TO THAT:
(Please post opinions/comments)
Why would it be worth anything?
A loaf of bread would estimatedly cost nearly $200 after INITIAL devaluation. So 500 loaves of bread would be $10,000 and does not compute.
You appear stuck in a world which resembles “today” and not what will actually happen.
If you think gold will become a new currency, you may be right for a short while until people discover that food, clothing and essentials of life - by then - when there is no national scale industry nor fuel to run one or transport goods everything becomes local - where a horse or a gun becomes a necessary luxury, gold will no longer be a useful “thing”.
You could exchange/barter a useful item you own for something you need for a practical item like a gun, or a sweater you possessed or a warm coat or a pair of shoes.
Why would you even need or want a suit after the disaster Obama is crashing down on us. And renting will become a communal affair or occupying empty buildings.
Allow your mind out of its conventional box and expand it to visualize future reality.
Their value will outpace a piece of yellow metal that becomes purely symbolic with no value of its own. And no government to guarantee it (or anything else).
When hunger or cold or need for medication or bandages rises, the little metal symbols you imagine will survive will vanish. Or will be stolen or robbed by armed marauders or local gangs. Leaving you without any means to survive.
You still think of “trade” instead of “barter”. With very limited transportation in the sense you envisage, trade will shrink to minimal activity.
You might find gold (for a while) a base "trade" calculator in exchange for coal or a similar mined or manufactured item NEEDED for survival. Heat being one of these.
But think again. After a while nobody will have any gold left. It will have accumulated in fewer and fewer “rich” hands. Like the barons of old.
Its value will be arbitrary - as were coins in old times and not universally accepted. Specially when it is melted down, contaminated with other metals and turned in to ever less pure forms.
How long do you really believe gold or silver which few will be able to assay or verify will survive?
Your assumptions seem very strongly based on what a gold dealer (like yourself?) would like us to believe. Not like our future realities you might wish to rethink.
The global economy will also devolve into a set of Fifth (not even third) world, AGRICULTURAL very local economies and societies. The Amish social level will be about the best of modernity which survives.
VERY RAPIDLY so as millions die of hunger and disease from an overall inability to get health care or adequately grow their own food.
Remember, like the Bubonic plague of the 1600's in Europe there will quickly be nobody available or willing to bury those who die of disease. Bringing more disease and deaths.
No more truckoads or trains of anything going anywhere. (Some train conversions in coal bearing States)
The Wild Wild West days will be MODERN compared to what we we will be facing in a very short time. They were hardy people in those days, used to a minimal life style.
Today we are softies, who will die or be killed in droves during a period of lawlessness and scant food or basic needs. Like electricity - so virtually no refrigeration of food or other perishables like medicines.
How much gold would pay for some still active antibiotics some 30-years from now?
Projections estimate that in a matter of not too many decades, less than a century, probably within 60-years our American population will dwindle toward about 40 million as in the times of George Washington and our living standards will mimic those of that time with some improvements based on our acquired scientific knowledge.
What I suggest may be beyond your lifetime or mine but could begin to be felt even by our adult children and with increased intensity by our grandchildren after Oba-Hussein and a nascent Islamic Caliphate collapses us and the global economy, even for Moslems.
Of course, that is if the Mayans are incorrect and we get that far past 2012/13 natural solar events. I hope we do but your “gold” will not have value for very long. Maybe for a decade or so, though I have my doubts about even that long after the US Dollar and virtually very other currency crash like dominoes.
I have NO agenda to defend - NOR espouse.
Only a fairly good ability to visualize - based on world history, human nature, and widely travelled worldwide experience and of course a modicum of imagination to extrapolate what you wish to deny - as a gold or day trader(?).
Final Reply from Trader
"purely symbolic with no value of its own"
That's where you're right and wrong at the same time. Gold is always worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
The reason it holds value vis-a-vis desirable, needed resources (and even luxuries), is that someone HAS those resources. Their problem is storing their value. Take wheat, for example. The grower knows he has something of value, but he must dispose of it. He wants something small and portable to store the value of something that originally took up hundreds of acres, tens of thousands of bushels. That's where gold comes in. Always has, always will. Its absolute value will change with monetary policy. But its relative value will always make it worth a fairly rigid amount of the necessities of life.
Is that hard to see?
Thanks for your considerable response. We just disagree, poles apart. And that's fine, since the subject is by definition speculative.
AND MY THANKS FOR HIS COMMENT
Your reply is courteous and pleasant and appreciated. In fact this conversation has been posted without names or tags (anonymously) on AntiMullah to try to garner opinions from visitors from some 88 countries.
You are not the thrust of my “negative opinion” - Obambi is. He is taking us down the path of perdition
BTW - breaking news - Iran has withdrawn all its bank assets from Europe.
"We the people will have been financially enslaved and not feast at Soros' and Obama's table.
AND gold or other precious metal will not be the answer. Whoever tries to buy it will have to pay for it with WHAT? A worthless currency. So your gold holdings would be worth a few cents at best or in fact NOTHING.
And efforts to barter it, or silver, will receive some response to start with but when it becomes a useless piece of metal that nobody can use, like any paper currency, then pure barter of an item of service will become the going "currency" or locally printed "money scripp" good for your neighborhood or municipality only. These might combine into slightly larger communities."
Trader's Reply:
"So your gold holdings would be worth a few cents at best or in fact NOTHING".
You have said this before. It was BS then, and it's BS again. An ounce of Gold will always be worth about 500 loaves of bread, the finest suit of clothes, a month's rent for a family of four in a middle-level house.
The only exception would be if the government were ever able to pry all the gold out of private hands, and to criminalize its use. The only way that could happen would be if the government offered a premium grubstake for people to turn it in. Otherwise, it will always be out there on the black market, holding its value when nothing else will.
RESPONSE TO THAT:
(Please post opinions/comments)
Why would it be worth anything?
A loaf of bread would estimatedly cost nearly $200 after INITIAL devaluation. So 500 loaves of bread would be $10,000 and does not compute.
You appear stuck in a world which resembles “today” and not what will actually happen.
If you think gold will become a new currency, you may be right for a short while until people discover that food, clothing and essentials of life - by then - when there is no national scale industry nor fuel to run one or transport goods everything becomes local - where a horse or a gun becomes a necessary luxury, gold will no longer be a useful “thing”.
You could exchange/barter a useful item you own for something you need for a practical item like a gun, or a sweater you possessed or a warm coat or a pair of shoes.
Why would you even need or want a suit after the disaster Obama is crashing down on us. And renting will become a communal affair or occupying empty buildings.
Allow your mind out of its conventional box and expand it to visualize future reality.
Their value will outpace a piece of yellow metal that becomes purely symbolic with no value of its own. And no government to guarantee it (or anything else).
When hunger or cold or need for medication or bandages rises, the little metal symbols you imagine will survive will vanish. Or will be stolen or robbed by armed marauders or local gangs. Leaving you without any means to survive.
You still think of “trade” instead of “barter”. With very limited transportation in the sense you envisage, trade will shrink to minimal activity.
You might find gold (for a while) a base "trade" calculator in exchange for coal or a similar mined or manufactured item NEEDED for survival. Heat being one of these.
But think again. After a while nobody will have any gold left. It will have accumulated in fewer and fewer “rich” hands. Like the barons of old.
Its value will be arbitrary - as were coins in old times and not universally accepted. Specially when it is melted down, contaminated with other metals and turned in to ever less pure forms.
How long do you really believe gold or silver which few will be able to assay or verify will survive?
Your assumptions seem very strongly based on what a gold dealer (like yourself?) would like us to believe. Not like our future realities you might wish to rethink.
The global economy will also devolve into a set of Fifth (not even third) world, AGRICULTURAL very local economies and societies. The Amish social level will be about the best of modernity which survives.
VERY RAPIDLY so as millions die of hunger and disease from an overall inability to get health care or adequately grow their own food.
Remember, like the Bubonic plague of the 1600's in Europe there will quickly be nobody available or willing to bury those who die of disease. Bringing more disease and deaths.
No more truckoads or trains of anything going anywhere. (Some train conversions in coal bearing States)
The Wild Wild West days will be MODERN compared to what we we will be facing in a very short time. They were hardy people in those days, used to a minimal life style.
Today we are softies, who will die or be killed in droves during a period of lawlessness and scant food or basic needs. Like electricity - so virtually no refrigeration of food or other perishables like medicines.
How much gold would pay for some still active antibiotics some 30-years from now?
Projections estimate that in a matter of not too many decades, less than a century, probably within 60-years our American population will dwindle toward about 40 million as in the times of George Washington and our living standards will mimic those of that time with some improvements based on our acquired scientific knowledge.
What I suggest may be beyond your lifetime or mine but could begin to be felt even by our adult children and with increased intensity by our grandchildren after Oba-Hussein and a nascent Islamic Caliphate collapses us and the global economy, even for Moslems.
Of course, that is if the Mayans are incorrect and we get that far past 2012/13 natural solar events. I hope we do but your “gold” will not have value for very long. Maybe for a decade or so, though I have my doubts about even that long after the US Dollar and virtually very other currency crash like dominoes.
I have NO agenda to defend - NOR espouse.
Only a fairly good ability to visualize - based on world history, human nature, and widely travelled worldwide experience and of course a modicum of imagination to extrapolate what you wish to deny - as a gold or day trader(?).
Final Reply from Trader
"purely symbolic with no value of its own"
That's where you're right and wrong at the same time. Gold is always worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
The reason it holds value vis-a-vis desirable, needed resources (and even luxuries), is that someone HAS those resources. Their problem is storing their value. Take wheat, for example. The grower knows he has something of value, but he must dispose of it. He wants something small and portable to store the value of something that originally took up hundreds of acres, tens of thousands of bushels. That's where gold comes in. Always has, always will. Its absolute value will change with monetary policy. But its relative value will always make it worth a fairly rigid amount of the necessities of life.
Is that hard to see?
Thanks for your considerable response. We just disagree, poles apart. And that's fine, since the subject is by definition speculative.
AND MY THANKS FOR HIS COMMENT
Your reply is courteous and pleasant and appreciated. In fact this conversation has been posted without names or tags (anonymously) on AntiMullah to try to garner opinions from visitors from some 88 countries.
You are not the thrust of my “negative opinion” - Obambi is. He is taking us down the path of perdition
BTW - breaking news - Iran has withdrawn all its bank assets from Europe.
Saturday, August 21, 2010
NEWS BITS
Fecal Bacteria on his vacation to Martha's Vineyard - Sixth holiday of the year !
Boston Herald article Friday, August 20, 2010 | Gayle Fee and Laura Raposa
Welcome to Martha’s Vineyard, Mr. President - but don’t go in the water! President Obama, who took a plunge in the Gulf last week to show Americans it was safe to swim the oil spill-plagued area, arrived on this supposedly pristine island yesterday in the midst of a rash of bacteria-induced beach closings. Portions of Tisbury Great Pond, the salt-water lagoon fronting the first family’s vacation estate Blue Heron Farm, were closed earlier this week due to high levels of enterococci, an indicator that the water is contaminated with fecal coliform bacteria. Ew. High levels of enterococci can cause skin...
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Obama had facts wrong about visit here
Finance director: Stimulus dollars didn't aid project
Friday, August 20, 2010 02:50 AM
By Mark Niquette
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
ERIC ALBRECHT
DISPATCH
President Barack Obama spoke at the North Side home of an architect during his visit Wednesday.
A local project that President Barack Obama cited during a visit Wednesday to Columbus as an example of how the federal stimulus package has worked isn't actually being funded with stimulus dollars.
The president spoke at the North Side home of architect Joe Weithman, and both Obama's comments and information from the White House touted Weithman's work on a project that the president said was being at least partially funded by the $787 billion stimulus bill passed last year.
"What we've been trying to do is to build infrastructure that puts people back to work but also improves the quality of life in communities like Columbus," Obama said in his remarks. "So Joe is an architect, and he's now working on a new police station that was funded in part with Recovery Act funds."
But although federal money is being used for the project in question, there are no stimulus dollars involved, said Columbus Finance Director Paul Rakosky, a Democrat.
Rakosky said the project is not a police station but rather the renovation of an abandoned warehouse that the city purchased on the South Side in 2007 to house the city's police crime lab and property room.
Weithman's firm, Mull & Weithman Architects, is handling the $300,000 in design work for the crime lab as part of the project, and the $300,000 is coming from a congressional earmark, Rakosky said.
When White House spokesman Matt Lehrich was asked about the discrepancy, all he would say is: "The president's trip to Columbus was, in part, to highlight the role that small businesses, like Joe's, will play in creating jobs in communities across the country. That's a fact, and it's why he's been urging Republicans to stop blocking a proposal to cut taxes for small businesses that are looking to grow and hire more workers."
Background information the White House provided before the president's visit didn't identify the stimulus bill as the source of funding for the work, but it said the architectural firm that Weithman runs "was able to keep two of their employees that otherwise would have been laid off due to work on a police station renovation that received infrastructure funding."
It also said Weithman hopes to hire an additional employee as the economy improves and as "additional projects, some of which could be funded by the Recovery Act, are secured."
The White House did properly credit the stimulus bill for tax subsidies that Weithman's wife, Rhonda, used to maintain the family's health-care coverage after she lost her job last year.
Rakosky also noted that Columbus has received $70 million in stimulus money for infrastructure work, which he said is freeing up capital dollars for other projects such as the warehouse renovation.
mniquette@dispatch.com
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DEMOCRATIC ASS GRAB LEADERSHIP
Thursday, August 19, 2010
A LOOK AT THE ISLAM OF THE KORAN - NOT SHARIA IMPOSITION FROM HADITHS CREATED CENTURIES LATER
The "original" Islam - as per the Koran itself - had some peaceful aspects written into it, (see below), used to promote the notion of it as a religion of peace, conflicts with the "modern" clerics who promote conflict, death and destruction in the name of Allah and based on "man-made" editiorials added over the next few hundred years by Islamic evangelicals after the death of the Prophet.
The Koran DOES have "unkind" verses (being polite) and while only refering to Paradise some eight or so times, threatens followers with hell over 30 times.
These Sunni and Shia clerics follow sectarian Islam that relies on hadiths for 95% of its jurisprudence. Hadiths were "compiled" 2 to 3 centuries after the prophet.
They are the "supposed" deeds and speeches of the prophet that the clerics use to "explain" the Koran.
Both MAJOR sects have hadiths that refute each other. Both claim that their hadiths have been rigorously "authenticated". Even if they had to carry out this "authentication" process 2 to 3 centuries after the events.
They rely on orally transmitted narrations they claim was "carefully passed down" through the ages. The prophet never left behind him any hadiths.
The only text the prophet and the 4 caliphs left behind and spread was the Koran.The Koran (theoretically) gave COMPLETE freedom for everyone.
Concerning other monotheist faiths: Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin good and forbid wrong; and they hasten in good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are God fearing.
3:113-115
And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture, those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account.
3:199
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .
2:62
Say: "O people of the Scripture : Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but God, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides God.
3:64
And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.
2.111-113
If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them
4.124
The Quran(Koran) Concerning who we fight or don't:
As for such who do not fight you on account of faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to deal with them with equity, for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of faith and drive you forth from your homelands or aid in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers.
60:8-9
Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged, and verily, God has indeed the power to aid them. Those who have been driven from their homelands in defiance of right for no other reason than their saying, ‘Our Lord is God.’
22:39-40
The Quran(Koran) Concerning freedom:
2:256
There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clear from the wrong way.
Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
16:82
But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message .
6:107
Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.
4:79-80
Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."
11:28
He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If I act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°
17:53-54
And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.
21:107-109
(O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour is near or far."
22:67
To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord. You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, `God best knows what you do."
24.54.
Say: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).
88:21 22;
And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.
48:28
He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.
36:16 17
(Three Messengers to their people) Said, "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'
39:41
Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.
42:6 48
And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....
64:12
Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.
67:25 26
And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner." The Quran(Koran) concerning justice:"And among His signs are the creation of the heaven and earth, and the variation in your language and your colors; verily in that are signs for those who know"
(30:22).
"Satan seeks only to cast among you enmity and hate"
(5:91).
O you who believe! Stand out for justice, as witnesses to God, and even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be rich or poor.
An-Nisaa’ 4:134
"O you who believe! Be the maintainers of justice and bearers of witness for God's sake though it be against your own self, parents and relatives"
(4:135).
"O you mankind! We have created you from a single pair of male and female and made you into nations and tribes so that you know each other. Verily the most honored in the sight of God is the one who is most righteous"
(49:13)
.O you who believe! Stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety and fear God, for God is well acquainted with all that you do.
5:8
And thus We made of you a justly balanced community that you might bear witness to humankind and the Apostle might bear witness over you.
2:143
O you who believe, observe your duty to God with right observance, and die not except in a state of submission (to Him). And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of God, and do not separate, and remember God's favor unto you: how you were enemies and He put love between your hearts so that you became as brothers by His grace: and how you were upon the brink of a fire and He saved you from it. Thus God makes clear His revelations unto you so that you may be guided"
(3:102-103).
"The believers are nothing else other than brothers, Thus make peace between your brethren and observe your duty to God that you may haply receive His mercy"
(49: 1 0).
The Quran(Koran) Concerning propagation:
Invite (all humankind) to the path of your Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation and argue with them in the most kindly manner, for, indeed, your Lord knows best as to who strays from His path, and best who are the right-guided.
(16:125)
Had your Lord so willed, all those who live on earth would surely have attained faith, will you then compel people, against their will, to believe?
10:99
And We have not sent you, but as mercy to all the worlds.
21:107
Islam is peace!
Alan note: (Unless PERVERTED by the Mullahs of both flavors, in all iSLAMIC nations who have interpreted it to suit their barbaric, savage mindsets just as the Jesuits did with the Catholic Religion and held their barbarous Auto de Fe and torture sessions all in the name of Jesus.
Christianity has evolved alongside a modern, civilized social code in keeping with Western civilized culture, whereas modern day Islam has lost the original peaceful tenets of much of the Koran (not all of it is peaceful) and reverted to the equivalent or worse of the sadistic Jesuit mindsets (par for the course in those days) which fits in well with their current often still barely educated (as a whole), often ALMOST primitive national cultures, and definitely still not fully modern thought processes.
You cannot tell me the barely literate, FANATICAL Afghan/Pakistani Taleban or still superstitious villagers or tribes in most Islamic nations have modern mindsets - or even ANY experience and little or no knowledge of what we consider a modern world.
Islam has a vested interest in keeping it that way to stay in power and demand the mindless bloodshed (in the name of Allah) needed to establish their IMPOSED (contrary to the teachings of the Koran) global, enslaving, Islamic Caliphate.
They have turned a potential religion of peace (theoretically at least) into a religion of "bloody body pieces", including those of a vast number of their own Moslems.
The Koran DOES have "unkind" verses (being polite) and while only refering to Paradise some eight or so times, threatens followers with hell over 30 times.
These Sunni and Shia clerics follow sectarian Islam that relies on hadiths for 95% of its jurisprudence. Hadiths were "compiled" 2 to 3 centuries after the prophet.
They are the "supposed" deeds and speeches of the prophet that the clerics use to "explain" the Koran.
Both MAJOR sects have hadiths that refute each other. Both claim that their hadiths have been rigorously "authenticated". Even if they had to carry out this "authentication" process 2 to 3 centuries after the events.
They rely on orally transmitted narrations they claim was "carefully passed down" through the ages. The prophet never left behind him any hadiths.
The only text the prophet and the 4 caliphs left behind and spread was the Koran.The Koran (theoretically) gave COMPLETE freedom for everyone.
Concerning other monotheist faiths: Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin good and forbid wrong; and they hasten in good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are God fearing.
3:113-115
And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture, those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account.
3:199
Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .
2:62
Say: "O people of the Scripture : Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but God, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides God.
3:64
And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.
2.111-113
If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them
4.124
The Quran(Koran) Concerning who we fight or don't:
As for such who do not fight you on account of faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to deal with them with equity, for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of faith and drive you forth from your homelands or aid in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers.
60:8-9
Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged, and verily, God has indeed the power to aid them. Those who have been driven from their homelands in defiance of right for no other reason than their saying, ‘Our Lord is God.’
22:39-40
The Quran(Koran) Concerning freedom:
2:256
There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clear from the wrong way.
Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
16:82
But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message .
6:107
Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.
4:79-80
Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."
11:28
He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If I act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°
17:53-54
And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.
21:107-109
(O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour is near or far."
22:67
To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord. You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, `God best knows what you do."
24.54.
Say: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).
88:21 22;
And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.
48:28
He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.
36:16 17
(Three Messengers to their people) Said, "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'
39:41
Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.
42:6 48
And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....
64:12
Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.
67:25 26
And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner." The Quran(Koran) concerning justice:"And among His signs are the creation of the heaven and earth, and the variation in your language and your colors; verily in that are signs for those who know"
(30:22).
"Satan seeks only to cast among you enmity and hate"
(5:91).
O you who believe! Stand out for justice, as witnesses to God, and even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be rich or poor.
An-Nisaa’ 4:134
"O you who believe! Be the maintainers of justice and bearers of witness for God's sake though it be against your own self, parents and relatives"
(4:135).
"O you mankind! We have created you from a single pair of male and female and made you into nations and tribes so that you know each other. Verily the most honored in the sight of God is the one who is most righteous"
(49:13)
.O you who believe! Stand out firmly for God, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety and fear God, for God is well acquainted with all that you do.
5:8
And thus We made of you a justly balanced community that you might bear witness to humankind and the Apostle might bear witness over you.
2:143
O you who believe, observe your duty to God with right observance, and die not except in a state of submission (to Him). And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of God, and do not separate, and remember God's favor unto you: how you were enemies and He put love between your hearts so that you became as brothers by His grace: and how you were upon the brink of a fire and He saved you from it. Thus God makes clear His revelations unto you so that you may be guided"
(3:102-103).
"The believers are nothing else other than brothers, Thus make peace between your brethren and observe your duty to God that you may haply receive His mercy"
(49: 1 0).
The Quran(Koran) Concerning propagation:
Invite (all humankind) to the path of your Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation and argue with them in the most kindly manner, for, indeed, your Lord knows best as to who strays from His path, and best who are the right-guided.
(16:125)
Had your Lord so willed, all those who live on earth would surely have attained faith, will you then compel people, against their will, to believe?
10:99
And We have not sent you, but as mercy to all the worlds.
21:107
Islam is peace!
Alan note: (Unless PERVERTED by the Mullahs of both flavors, in all iSLAMIC nations who have interpreted it to suit their barbaric, savage mindsets just as the Jesuits did with the Catholic Religion and held their barbarous Auto de Fe and torture sessions all in the name of Jesus.
Christianity has evolved alongside a modern, civilized social code in keeping with Western civilized culture, whereas modern day Islam has lost the original peaceful tenets of much of the Koran (not all of it is peaceful) and reverted to the equivalent or worse of the sadistic Jesuit mindsets (par for the course in those days) which fits in well with their current often still barely educated (as a whole), often ALMOST primitive national cultures, and definitely still not fully modern thought processes.
You cannot tell me the barely literate, FANATICAL Afghan/Pakistani Taleban or still superstitious villagers or tribes in most Islamic nations have modern mindsets - or even ANY experience and little or no knowledge of what we consider a modern world.
Islam has a vested interest in keeping it that way to stay in power and demand the mindless bloodshed (in the name of Allah) needed to establish their IMPOSED (contrary to the teachings of the Koran) global, enslaving, Islamic Caliphate.
They have turned a potential religion of peace (theoretically at least) into a religion of "bloody body pieces", including those of a vast number of their own Moslems.
Tuesday, August 17, 2010
25 MORE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
50 Impeachable Crimes and Counting
By Fred Dardick Tuesday, August 17, 2010
A few weeks ago I wrote an article From the White House to the Big House: 25 Impeachable Crimes and Counting that detailed 25 illegal acts committed by President Obama and his Democrat cohorts in Washington. It showed a President and political party willing to break the law at will in order to accomplish their political aims. Thanks to reader contributions and conservative writers around the country, here are 25 more for your consideration.
Whether or not any of these troubling examples will lead to Obama’s impeachment and/or imprisonment, only time will tell. Regardless, taken together they paint a picture of an out of control President who lacks basic American values and has little to no respect for the rule of law.
25 More Impeachable Crimes
1. Obama’s term as Board Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in the mid-1990s where he and his colleague, unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, misused over $300 million in private donations meant to improve the education of minorities. Instead of spending the money on traditional learning programs, Obama and Ayers directed the funds to local community activists who wasted it on trying to “radicalize” the students. An official review of the program found that it was a complete and utter failure.
2. As an Illinois State Senator, Obama directed tens of millions in state money to slumlords Valerie Jarrett and Tony Rezko meant to provide for housing for low income, minority tenants in return for political donations. Due to shoddy construction and nonexistent maintenance, the majority of the units, after less than 10 years of use, have been rendered uninhabitable.
3. Michelle Obama’s politically connected $316,000 VP of Community Affairs job at University of Chicago Hospitals while her husband was serving as US Senator. She was responsible for the design of an illegal “patient dumping” scheme that prevents local African Americans from using the emergency room at one of the nation’s finest hospitals and instead redirects them to community healthcare centers where they often receive substandard and inadequate treatment. The high paying position was eliminated soon after Mrs. Obama’s departure from the university.
4. Millions in illegal contributions accepted by the Obama campaign during his presidential run. Credit card filters designed to screen out foreign money and domestic donors who had maxed out their legally allowable limits, as required by US law, were intentionally switched off.
5. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s ongoing effort to create international small arms accords that will subvert the Second Amendment rights of US citizens.
6. The Russian-American START treaty signed by Obama in April 2010 that has no chance of making it through Congress unless passed during the lame duck session. Not only does the treaty hamstring US missile defense development and make it difficult to modernize our rapidly aging nuclear weapons arsenal, it represents unilateral disarmament by the US in return for nothing more than Russian “good will”.
7. Moving control of the Census Bureau from the Commerce Department directly into the White House where it is managed by Chief of Staff Rham Emmanuel.
8. Providing de facto amnesty to illegal immigrants by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton, who has prohibited ICE officers from enforcing US immigration laws outside the institutional setting. The ICE union has subsequently taken the unprecedented step of voting “no confidence” in Morton’s leadership.
9. Attorney General Erik Holder’s failure to sue sanctuary cities for violating US immigration law, while at the same time proceeding with a lawsuit against the State of Arizona for enforcing US immigration law.
10. Failure by Obama to treat the takeover of sovereign land in Arizona by the Mexican drug cartel as an Act of War.
11. Refusal by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Administrator David L. Strickland to release results from an internal investigation into the Toyota sudden acceleration problem that contains findings favorable to the foreign automaker.
12. Ongoing efforts by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski to gain control over the internet in opposition to a judge’s ruling and Congress’s will, by reclassifying internet companies as telecommunication providers thus making them subject
to FCC regulation.
13. Obama and his environmentalist allies preventing US industries from taking advantage of our rich natural resources including oil, coal, uranium and timber.
14. Obama’s month long stint as UN Security Council Chair in 2009, the first ever by a sitting U.S. President. Not only did this action give credibility to an international organization ruled by tyrants, it also called into question potential dual loyalties by our President.
15. The Obama National Security Strategy released in May that allows for the targeted assassination of US citizens including “homegrown terrorists” without due process. It has also been described by the Kremlin, which knows quite a lot about these kinds of things, as a “new law put forth by President Obama capable of seeing up to 500,000 American citizens jailed for the crime of opposing their government.”
16. Obama executive order signed in Dec. 2009 that allows Interpol to operate in US territory with impunity and without oversight by Congress, the courts, FBI or local law enforcement.
17. Deployment of 1,200 National Guard troops to border states where they will not, under any circumstances, be used to stop the flow of illegal aliens or drug traffickers.
18. A foreign policy that can be best described as the turning away of our allies, in particular Great Britain, Israel, Honduras, Poland, Columbia, and Taiwan, and the embracement of our enemies.
19. The State Department using $23 million in taxpayer money to help transform Kenya into a constitutionally communist nation where the freedom of speech is limited and private property rights are subservient to “social justice”.
In addition, the recently adopted Kenyan constitution allows for the practice of Sharia Law in some regions, ensuring women will not be guaranteed basic human rights.
20. Obama’s refusal to hold press conferences and answer difficult questions as expected of a US President. Never in the modern age has there been a President so unwilling to answer to the American people for his actions.
Considering the public’s growing anger towards his progressive policies, it is doubtful Obama will ever hold another press conference again.
21. The $26 billion bailout of the teacher’s unions that Obama recently signed into law. Not only was the money taken from food stamp programs for poor Americans in order to fund Democrat special interests, a portion will be skimmed off the top as union dues and funneled to Democrat political campaigns this fall.
22. Obama’s involvement with Governor Rod Blagojevich’s attempt to sell his old Illinois Senate seat. Even if Obama didn’t try to purchase the position for his chosen replacement, slumlord Valerie Jarrett, at the very least he had to know the seat was for sale.
23. Department of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s plans to take control of millions of acres of public and private land in Western states by designating them national monuments. These efforts are being carried out in secret and without input from Congress, state and local officials and current land owners.
24. Obama’s use of taxpayer money to pay for Democrat propaganda including $15 million for The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act road signs and $18 million for the perpetually misleading recovery.gov website.
25. The lasting damage Obama has done to the Jewish people. In his less than two years in office, there has been an outpouring of hatred towards the Jews the likes of which I thought I would never live to see. From Helen Thomas telling the Jews to “get the hell out of Palestine” to heavily armed, terrorist flotillas destined for the Gaza Strip described as “peaceful” by the western press.
From throwing stones at little old ladies leaving synagogue in Sweden to the thousands of Jewish families fleeing Muslim persecution in France, a sea change in world public opinion against the Jewish people has been accomplished during Obama’s term.
Because of his refusal to speak out against virulent anti-Semitism being pushed by left-wing politicians and Islamists around the world, the harm to the Jewish people will surely outlive his presidency and could have terrible, unforeseen consequences.
Original List of 25 Impeachable Offences
1. Convicted felon and Chicago real estate developer Tony Rezko’s purchase of land adjacent to Obama’s house in Hyde Park, IL. In 2006, Rezko sold a 10 foot strip of his property to Obama for $104,500, rendering the remainder of Rezko’s $625,000 investment too small to be developed and, for all intents and purposes, worthless.
2. The provision of Obama campaign donor lists to ACORN in 2007 and 2008, more complete than the ones he gave to the FEC. ACORN used the lists to raise money for Obama’s election from donors who had already maxed out their legally allowable contributions.
3. Widespread voter fraud including voter intimidation, ballot stuffing, falsified documents, and threats of violence against Hillary Clinton supporters committed by the Obama campaign and ACORN during the 2008 Democrat primary election. For more information see my CFP article How Obama Used an Army of Thugs to Steal the 2008 Democratic Party Nomination.
4. Obama’s refusal to release his long form birth certificate which would show conclusively that he is a dual citizen and therefore not constitutionally eligible to serve as President. Obama’s college records, which have also not been released, would also contain information regarding his dual citizenship status.
5. Protecting union interests over those of GM and Chrysler bond holders during bankruptcy proceedings, forcing investors to accept millions of dollars in losses in direct violation of bankruptcy laws, money to which they were legally entitled.
6. Preferential treatment given to minority and women owned car dealerships by Obama administration officials as part of the auto industry bailout program and the forced closing of a disproportionate number of dealerships located in rural areas that did not vote for Obama.
7. Unsubstantiated firing of Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin for exposing Sacramento Mayor and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson’s misuse of an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant.
8. Purchase of Congressional support for the passage of Obama’s healthcare bill including the “Cornhusker Kickback”, “Louisiana Purchase” and having the Department of Interior increase water allocations to the Central Valley of California to secure the votes of Democrat Reps. Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa.
9. Lying to the American people by promising they could keep their healthcare coverage if they wanted to, when in reality tens of millions will be forced out of their current plans.
10. Attempted bribery of Rep. Joe Sestak with job offers to get him to drop out of the Senate primary race against Sen. Arlen Specter.
11. Directing the EPA to unilaterally set carbon emission standards, thus bypassing Congress which opposes Obama’s energy reform bill. For more information see my CFP article Forget Cap and Trade: EPA Regulation of CO2 Emissions Will Begin in 10 Months.
12. The Obama administration’s statement that a panel of experts had agreed with their plan for a 6 month Gulf Coast drilling moratorium, when in actuality none of them had supported the measure.
13. Bullying BP to set up a $20 billion slush fund to compensate Gulf Coast businesses and residents affected by the oil spill, to be administered by an
Obama political appointee without any judicial or congressional oversight.
14. Implementing a third oil-drilling moratorium after the first two were thrown out of court, creating a de facto Gulf Coast offshore drilling ban in opposition to two judge’s rulings.
15. Establishment of a commission to investigate the Gulf Coast oil spill that contains not one oil industry expert and whose transparent purpose is to push a partisan political agenda rather than investigate the cause of the disaster.
16. Obama’s policy of intentionally not securing our nation’s borders, in opposition to Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution which calls for the President to protect states from foreign invasion, in an attempt to blackmail Republican support for comprehensive immigration reform. In essence, Obama is holding border states and residents politically hostage during a time they are being overrun by a narco-paramilitary invasion.
17. Department of Justice illegal race based policies regarding voter fraud as exposed by former Justice attorney J. Christian Adams. This includes the dropping of voter intimidation charges against 2 Black Panthers brandishing weapons in front of a voting location in Philadelphia and the stated intention by political appointees to ignore voter crimes committed by African Americans, Latinos and other minorities.
18. Department of Justice purposefully allowing some states to continue their disenfranchisement of military personnel serving overseas in direct opposition to the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act, which was established in response to the more than 17,000 military votes that were not counted in the 2008 election because ballots had arrived after the deadline.
19. Recess appointment of Donald Berwick as head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services without even a token attempt to put him through the Congressional nomination process, signaling that Congress’s constitutional obligation to vet presidential appointees means nothing to Obama. The same can be said of the 30+ Obama administration czars.
20. Spending $23 million of taxpayer money through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to support a constitutional referendum in Kenya in spite of the Siljander Amendment, which makes it illegal for the U.S. to lobby for abortion in other countries. The Kenyan referendum was partially written by Planned Parenthood and is designed to legalize abortion in that nation.
21. The participation of the Obama administration in the firing of Sherry Sherrod from the USDA without due process because of publicized out of context remarks she made at a NAACP meeting in March 2010.
22. The White House sham investigation of BP’s involvement in the release of the mass murdering Lockerbie bomber from prison. The Obama administration not only knew beforehand of the Scottish government’s plan to set Abdel Baset al-Megrahi free on “compassionate” grounds, they even sent a letter to Scottish authorities stating their preference for his remaining in Scotland over his transfer to a Libyan prison.
23. The canceling of 77 properly filed oil field development contracts approved by the Bush administration by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, preventing the extraction of up to 3 trillion gallons of oil buried under Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and North Dakota, more than enough to end our dependence on foreign oil and supply the U.S. with its energy needs for hundreds of years at current consumption rates.
24. Investigations by the Department of Homeland Security to determine the political affiliation of people making Freedom of Information Act requests and the subsequent delay and even altogether ignoring of requests made by Republican affiliated individuals.
25. The hardest to prosecute in court, but worst crime of all that Obama has perpetrated against the American people is the economic tyranny his socialist policies have wrecked upon our nation. While Obama has been living the life of a king including frequent 5 star vacations, dozens of concerts at the White House and endless rounds of golf, all paid for by taxpayer money—the increased transportation and security costs alone are in the millions of dollars—he has called for the rest of us to endure economic sacrifice. The annual trillion dollar deficits and borrowing of 41 cents of every dollar of federal spending by Obama is leading to unsustainable and potentially catastrophic national debt.
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Barack Obama’s 50 Impeachable Crimes and Counting http://t.co/b8NYZgT
By Fred Dardick Tuesday, August 17, 2010
A few weeks ago I wrote an article From the White House to the Big House: 25 Impeachable Crimes and Counting that detailed 25 illegal acts committed by President Obama and his Democrat cohorts in Washington. It showed a President and political party willing to break the law at will in order to accomplish their political aims. Thanks to reader contributions and conservative writers around the country, here are 25 more for your consideration.
Whether or not any of these troubling examples will lead to Obama’s impeachment and/or imprisonment, only time will tell. Regardless, taken together they paint a picture of an out of control President who lacks basic American values and has little to no respect for the rule of law.
25 More Impeachable Crimes
1. Obama’s term as Board Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in the mid-1990s where he and his colleague, unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, misused over $300 million in private donations meant to improve the education of minorities. Instead of spending the money on traditional learning programs, Obama and Ayers directed the funds to local community activists who wasted it on trying to “radicalize” the students. An official review of the program found that it was a complete and utter failure.
2. As an Illinois State Senator, Obama directed tens of millions in state money to slumlords Valerie Jarrett and Tony Rezko meant to provide for housing for low income, minority tenants in return for political donations. Due to shoddy construction and nonexistent maintenance, the majority of the units, after less than 10 years of use, have been rendered uninhabitable.
3. Michelle Obama’s politically connected $316,000 VP of Community Affairs job at University of Chicago Hospitals while her husband was serving as US Senator. She was responsible for the design of an illegal “patient dumping” scheme that prevents local African Americans from using the emergency room at one of the nation’s finest hospitals and instead redirects them to community healthcare centers where they often receive substandard and inadequate treatment. The high paying position was eliminated soon after Mrs. Obama’s departure from the university.
4. Millions in illegal contributions accepted by the Obama campaign during his presidential run. Credit card filters designed to screen out foreign money and domestic donors who had maxed out their legally allowable limits, as required by US law, were intentionally switched off.
5. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s ongoing effort to create international small arms accords that will subvert the Second Amendment rights of US citizens.
6. The Russian-American START treaty signed by Obama in April 2010 that has no chance of making it through Congress unless passed during the lame duck session. Not only does the treaty hamstring US missile defense development and make it difficult to modernize our rapidly aging nuclear weapons arsenal, it represents unilateral disarmament by the US in return for nothing more than Russian “good will”.
7. Moving control of the Census Bureau from the Commerce Department directly into the White House where it is managed by Chief of Staff Rham Emmanuel.
8. Providing de facto amnesty to illegal immigrants by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton, who has prohibited ICE officers from enforcing US immigration laws outside the institutional setting. The ICE union has subsequently taken the unprecedented step of voting “no confidence” in Morton’s leadership.
9. Attorney General Erik Holder’s failure to sue sanctuary cities for violating US immigration law, while at the same time proceeding with a lawsuit against the State of Arizona for enforcing US immigration law.
10. Failure by Obama to treat the takeover of sovereign land in Arizona by the Mexican drug cartel as an Act of War.
11. Refusal by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Administrator David L. Strickland to release results from an internal investigation into the Toyota sudden acceleration problem that contains findings favorable to the foreign automaker.
12. Ongoing efforts by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski to gain control over the internet in opposition to a judge’s ruling and Congress’s will, by reclassifying internet companies as telecommunication providers thus making them subject
to FCC regulation.
13. Obama and his environmentalist allies preventing US industries from taking advantage of our rich natural resources including oil, coal, uranium and timber.
14. Obama’s month long stint as UN Security Council Chair in 2009, the first ever by a sitting U.S. President. Not only did this action give credibility to an international organization ruled by tyrants, it also called into question potential dual loyalties by our President.
15. The Obama National Security Strategy released in May that allows for the targeted assassination of US citizens including “homegrown terrorists” without due process. It has also been described by the Kremlin, which knows quite a lot about these kinds of things, as a “new law put forth by President Obama capable of seeing up to 500,000 American citizens jailed for the crime of opposing their government.”
16. Obama executive order signed in Dec. 2009 that allows Interpol to operate in US territory with impunity and without oversight by Congress, the courts, FBI or local law enforcement.
17. Deployment of 1,200 National Guard troops to border states where they will not, under any circumstances, be used to stop the flow of illegal aliens or drug traffickers.
18. A foreign policy that can be best described as the turning away of our allies, in particular Great Britain, Israel, Honduras, Poland, Columbia, and Taiwan, and the embracement of our enemies.
19. The State Department using $23 million in taxpayer money to help transform Kenya into a constitutionally communist nation where the freedom of speech is limited and private property rights are subservient to “social justice”.
In addition, the recently adopted Kenyan constitution allows for the practice of Sharia Law in some regions, ensuring women will not be guaranteed basic human rights.
20. Obama’s refusal to hold press conferences and answer difficult questions as expected of a US President. Never in the modern age has there been a President so unwilling to answer to the American people for his actions.
Considering the public’s growing anger towards his progressive policies, it is doubtful Obama will ever hold another press conference again.
21. The $26 billion bailout of the teacher’s unions that Obama recently signed into law. Not only was the money taken from food stamp programs for poor Americans in order to fund Democrat special interests, a portion will be skimmed off the top as union dues and funneled to Democrat political campaigns this fall.
22. Obama’s involvement with Governor Rod Blagojevich’s attempt to sell his old Illinois Senate seat. Even if Obama didn’t try to purchase the position for his chosen replacement, slumlord Valerie Jarrett, at the very least he had to know the seat was for sale.
23. Department of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s plans to take control of millions of acres of public and private land in Western states by designating them national monuments. These efforts are being carried out in secret and without input from Congress, state and local officials and current land owners.
24. Obama’s use of taxpayer money to pay for Democrat propaganda including $15 million for The American Reinvestment and Recovery Act road signs and $18 million for the perpetually misleading recovery.gov website.
25. The lasting damage Obama has done to the Jewish people. In his less than two years in office, there has been an outpouring of hatred towards the Jews the likes of which I thought I would never live to see. From Helen Thomas telling the Jews to “get the hell out of Palestine” to heavily armed, terrorist flotillas destined for the Gaza Strip described as “peaceful” by the western press.
From throwing stones at little old ladies leaving synagogue in Sweden to the thousands of Jewish families fleeing Muslim persecution in France, a sea change in world public opinion against the Jewish people has been accomplished during Obama’s term.
Because of his refusal to speak out against virulent anti-Semitism being pushed by left-wing politicians and Islamists around the world, the harm to the Jewish people will surely outlive his presidency and could have terrible, unforeseen consequences.
Original List of 25 Impeachable Offences
1. Convicted felon and Chicago real estate developer Tony Rezko’s purchase of land adjacent to Obama’s house in Hyde Park, IL. In 2006, Rezko sold a 10 foot strip of his property to Obama for $104,500, rendering the remainder of Rezko’s $625,000 investment too small to be developed and, for all intents and purposes, worthless.
2. The provision of Obama campaign donor lists to ACORN in 2007 and 2008, more complete than the ones he gave to the FEC. ACORN used the lists to raise money for Obama’s election from donors who had already maxed out their legally allowable contributions.
3. Widespread voter fraud including voter intimidation, ballot stuffing, falsified documents, and threats of violence against Hillary Clinton supporters committed by the Obama campaign and ACORN during the 2008 Democrat primary election. For more information see my CFP article How Obama Used an Army of Thugs to Steal the 2008 Democratic Party Nomination.
4. Obama’s refusal to release his long form birth certificate which would show conclusively that he is a dual citizen and therefore not constitutionally eligible to serve as President. Obama’s college records, which have also not been released, would also contain information regarding his dual citizenship status.
5. Protecting union interests over those of GM and Chrysler bond holders during bankruptcy proceedings, forcing investors to accept millions of dollars in losses in direct violation of bankruptcy laws, money to which they were legally entitled.
6. Preferential treatment given to minority and women owned car dealerships by Obama administration officials as part of the auto industry bailout program and the forced closing of a disproportionate number of dealerships located in rural areas that did not vote for Obama.
7. Unsubstantiated firing of Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin for exposing Sacramento Mayor and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson’s misuse of an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant.
8. Purchase of Congressional support for the passage of Obama’s healthcare bill including the “Cornhusker Kickback”, “Louisiana Purchase” and having the Department of Interior increase water allocations to the Central Valley of California to secure the votes of Democrat Reps. Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa.
9. Lying to the American people by promising they could keep their healthcare coverage if they wanted to, when in reality tens of millions will be forced out of their current plans.
10. Attempted bribery of Rep. Joe Sestak with job offers to get him to drop out of the Senate primary race against Sen. Arlen Specter.
11. Directing the EPA to unilaterally set carbon emission standards, thus bypassing Congress which opposes Obama’s energy reform bill. For more information see my CFP article Forget Cap and Trade: EPA Regulation of CO2 Emissions Will Begin in 10 Months.
12. The Obama administration’s statement that a panel of experts had agreed with their plan for a 6 month Gulf Coast drilling moratorium, when in actuality none of them had supported the measure.
13. Bullying BP to set up a $20 billion slush fund to compensate Gulf Coast businesses and residents affected by the oil spill, to be administered by an
Obama political appointee without any judicial or congressional oversight.
14. Implementing a third oil-drilling moratorium after the first two were thrown out of court, creating a de facto Gulf Coast offshore drilling ban in opposition to two judge’s rulings.
15. Establishment of a commission to investigate the Gulf Coast oil spill that contains not one oil industry expert and whose transparent purpose is to push a partisan political agenda rather than investigate the cause of the disaster.
16. Obama’s policy of intentionally not securing our nation’s borders, in opposition to Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution which calls for the President to protect states from foreign invasion, in an attempt to blackmail Republican support for comprehensive immigration reform. In essence, Obama is holding border states and residents politically hostage during a time they are being overrun by a narco-paramilitary invasion.
17. Department of Justice illegal race based policies regarding voter fraud as exposed by former Justice attorney J. Christian Adams. This includes the dropping of voter intimidation charges against 2 Black Panthers brandishing weapons in front of a voting location in Philadelphia and the stated intention by political appointees to ignore voter crimes committed by African Americans, Latinos and other minorities.
18. Department of Justice purposefully allowing some states to continue their disenfranchisement of military personnel serving overseas in direct opposition to the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act, which was established in response to the more than 17,000 military votes that were not counted in the 2008 election because ballots had arrived after the deadline.
19. Recess appointment of Donald Berwick as head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services without even a token attempt to put him through the Congressional nomination process, signaling that Congress’s constitutional obligation to vet presidential appointees means nothing to Obama. The same can be said of the 30+ Obama administration czars.
20. Spending $23 million of taxpayer money through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to support a constitutional referendum in Kenya in spite of the Siljander Amendment, which makes it illegal for the U.S. to lobby for abortion in other countries. The Kenyan referendum was partially written by Planned Parenthood and is designed to legalize abortion in that nation.
21. The participation of the Obama administration in the firing of Sherry Sherrod from the USDA without due process because of publicized out of context remarks she made at a NAACP meeting in March 2010.
22. The White House sham investigation of BP’s involvement in the release of the mass murdering Lockerbie bomber from prison. The Obama administration not only knew beforehand of the Scottish government’s plan to set Abdel Baset al-Megrahi free on “compassionate” grounds, they even sent a letter to Scottish authorities stating their preference for his remaining in Scotland over his transfer to a Libyan prison.
23. The canceling of 77 properly filed oil field development contracts approved by the Bush administration by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, preventing the extraction of up to 3 trillion gallons of oil buried under Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and North Dakota, more than enough to end our dependence on foreign oil and supply the U.S. with its energy needs for hundreds of years at current consumption rates.
24. Investigations by the Department of Homeland Security to determine the political affiliation of people making Freedom of Information Act requests and the subsequent delay and even altogether ignoring of requests made by Republican affiliated individuals.
25. The hardest to prosecute in court, but worst crime of all that Obama has perpetrated against the American people is the economic tyranny his socialist policies have wrecked upon our nation. While Obama has been living the life of a king including frequent 5 star vacations, dozens of concerts at the White House and endless rounds of golf, all paid for by taxpayer money—the increased transportation and security costs alone are in the millions of dollars—he has called for the rest of us to endure economic sacrifice. The annual trillion dollar deficits and borrowing of 41 cents of every dollar of federal spending by Obama is leading to unsustainable and potentially catastrophic national debt.
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Monday, August 09, 2010
ARMY SILENCES OFFICER CHALLENGING ELIGIBILITY
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Escorts him from preliminary hearing under guard to prevent communication WITH ANYONE, SPECIALLY THE PRESS
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin
FT. BELVOIR, Va. – A decorated military officer who is challenging – in military court – President Obama's eligibility to be president was taken into custody and escorted under guard back to Walter Reed Army Base today after a hearing, apparently so he could not talk to the press or his attorney about his case, according to his defense attorney.
The Army held a hearing today at Ft. Belvoir, Va., for Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who posted a YouTube video challenging the Army to charge him after he refused to deploy to Afghanistan again this spring because of his concerns that Obama is ineligible to be president, and that orders under his chain of command then would be suspect.
The hearing was on several charges of disobeying commands and "missing movement," and was held by Col. Denise Lind, who has been assigned to be the military judge in the case.
At the conclusion of the arraignment, Lakin was ordered not to speak with the press and was taken back to Reed under military escort, surprising and disturbing a civilian lawyer who has been working on his case.
"This was completely inappropriate. Col. Lakin was brought here and taken away from here as if he was a common criminal. He was prohibited from talking to the press for two minutes; he was prohibited from talking to anybody, even me," Paul Rolf Jensen said.
Jensen said he was not sure how long Lakin was being detained because the Army offered no explanation as to why he needed an escort after the hearing. Jensen did say he thought it was because the Army did not want him talking to the press.
There also now are several hearings scheduled in the case, starting with an Aug. 20 event that will deal with evidence in the dispute.
According to the court, a second hearing on Aug. 27 would be for government "objections" to the evidence, and Jensen said he expects opposition from the White House at that point.
That's because the strategy in the case will include requests for evidence that Obama is, in fact, eligible to be commander-in-chief, evidence that could come through depositions with Hawaii state records-holders – who presumably have access to Obama's original birth documentation if he was born there as he has written.
Two other hearings are set Sept. 2 and Sept. 14 in the case before the trial date of Oct. 13.
The 18-year Army veteran, decorated multiple times, is facing court-martial where, if convicted, he could get up to four years of hard labor in prison and be dismissed from the military.
Lakin refused orders to deploy to Afghanistan in April of 2010 because he believes that President Barack Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is constitutionally eligible to be commander in chief.
The five charges brought against Lakin can be found in articles 87 and 92 of the military uniform service code of conduct. The five charges read aloud in a packed courtroom were three counts of disobeying a lawful order, one count of missing a movement and one count of dereliction of duty.
As WND reported earlier, in June of 2010, Lakin and his civilian attorney Jensen were preparing for an Article 32 pretrial hearing where they hoped to present both testimony and evidence proving that President Obama is not a citizen of the United States.
However, all evidence in the case that pertained to the president, such as academic transcripts and his birth certificate on file in Hawaii, were banned by Army hearing officer Daniel Driscoll.
Driscoll issued an opinion that said only Congress and not a United States military judicial body should decide to use the president's credentials on file.
But that evidence dispute will come up again, Jensen has confirmed.
Lind noted that Lakin has the choice to either supply his own counsel at his own expense or be provided military counsel at the government's expense. Lakin actually took a third option, which was retaining both military and civilian counsel, which he is entitled to do.
Lakin also has the choice of being tried by a jury of five military officers, who would vote by secret ballot on his guilt or innocence. Alternatively, he could choose to be tried by the trial judge alone, who would determine the result.
Jensen deferred that choice for the moment, but believes it would be better if Lakin is tried by a group of his peers.
After Lind requested that Lakin submit his plea of guilty or not guilty, Lakin's attorney said "No plea."
"A motion to dismiss must be brought before the plea is entered, and after the proceedings are commenced," Jensen explained. "In that thirty-second period we didn't have time to bring the motion, but we will."
Asked how his client would plead, Jensen said, if the motion to dismiss the charges is denied, Lakin would plead not guilty.
The trial will now move to the discovery phase, where Jensen will again be making requests for President Obama's birth certificate and other relevant documents to support Lakin's case.
According to the Safeguard our Constitution website, which is supporting the officer, Lakin earlier released a statement that "I am not guilty of these charges, and will plead 'not guilty' to them because of my conviction that our commander-in-chief may be ineligible under the United States Constitution to serve in that highest of all offices."
Lakin is board-certified in family medicine and occupational and environmental medicine. He has been recognized for his outstanding service as a flight surgeon for yearlong tours in Honduras, Bosnia and Afghanistan. He was also awarded the Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan and recognized in 2005 as one of the Army Medical Department's outstanding flight surgeons.
The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
A number of challenges and lawsuits have been based on the constitutional requirement, some alleging Obama does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims.
Others say he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen of the U.S. and the United Kingdom when he was born, and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.
Complicating the issue is the fact that besides Obama's actual birth documentation, he has concealed documentation including his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.
Lakin is not the first officer to raise questions. Others have included Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook. But Lakin is the first active-duty officer to raise the question.
In at least one of the earlier disputes, the Army simply canceled the orders rather than allow the argument to come to a head.
Lakin, who previously has served in Afghanistan, refused orders this spring to go again, "because the president refuses – even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary – to prove his eligibility under the Constitution to hold office."
Now Lakin is facing a court-martial and as part of his defense wants the information about Obama from the state of Hawaii.
"The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the Internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii's Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu," the foundation supporting Lakin's case confirmed.
"Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the head of that agency, has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the department's custody.
Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the department's records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii," the organization said.
"The United States Constitution requires that a person be a 'natural born citizen' to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a 'natural born citizen.'
An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health (is) an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama's constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008," the foundation said.
The issue of the Hawaii records has been a volatile point in the argument. The state of Hawaii has gone so far as to approve a law that allows the state to ignore repeated requests for documentation about Obama's birth.
The state's governor, Linda Lingle, just months ago told a New York talk-show host that it was an "odd situation."
"This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country," she said on the radio show. "So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue, and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this."
However, no news release from the state of Hawaii identified the birth location as Kapi'olani.
And Lingle's statement also was contradicted by Fukino, who reported, "No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii."
Critics also note that while the Obama campaign posted a computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" online during the 2008 election run-up, the procedures at the time allowed such certifications to be issued on the sworn statement of a relative for a child not born in the state.
The American Patriot Foundation said the records have been the target of many civil lawsuits over Obama's eligibility. But the lawsuits all have been dismissed on procedural grounds, such as the "standing" of the plaintiff, and none has yet addressed the merits of the arguments.
"While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin's case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary," the foundation said.
The issue of Obama's birth "in Hawaii" also arose after he assumed the Oval Office when a letter was revealed that purported to be from the president claiming Kapi'olani as the place of his birth.
The letter, dated Jan. 24, 2009, was used by the hospital at a fundraiser but later concealed.
A photograph taken by the Kapi'olani Medical Center for WND shows a letter allegedly written by President Obama on embossed White House stationery in which he declares the Honolulu hospital to be "the place of my birth," The hospital, after publicizing the letter then refusing to confirm it even existed, is now vouching for its authenticity, but not its content. The White House has yet to verify any aspect of the letter.
"As a beneficiary of the excellence of the Kapi'olani Medical Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters," Obama purportedly wrote.
The letter was referenced by then-Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, during the Jan. 24, 2009, hospital dinner. Kapi'olani has said officials "know" the letter is real, but hospital spokeswoman Keala Peters refused to corroborate the content.
As WND reported, Lakin posted the video of his challenge to Obama to document his eligibility March 30.
In his latest video, Lakin said the issue of evidence is important:
Lakin said Driscoll's decision made it impossible for him to present a defense at the proposed Article 32 hearing, so he was waiving the hearing and instead will use the time to prepare for a trial.
He cited a long list of "reasonable arguments" raising questions about whether Obama was born on American soil. He also pointed out how the "documentation" provided by Obama during his campaign, a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, until last year wasn't even recognized by the state of Hawaii itself for a number of uses. Also, officials in the state have refused to confirm its authenticity.
"Americans deserve answers, not a coverup," he said.
Lakin's attorney, Jensen, told WND that of the dozens of cases that have been brought to various courts over the issue of Obama's eligibility, Lakin's probably is the strongest.
Jensen expressed confidence that the necessary information will be obtained for the defense.
"This is a criminal case," he noted, with a possible punishment of several years in jail. "In order for a criminal defendant to defend himself in a criminal court he has to be given the opportunity to put on a defense.
"The records are relevant."
Jensen, in an earlier interview on the G. Gordon Liddy radio program, confirmed, "Every criminal defendant has to be allowed the benefit of doubt to discover information relevant or which may even lead to the discovery of relevant information that could support his case.
"It would be shocking to me that a defendant ... would not be permitted to discover information that would lend itself to proving his [case]," he said at the time.
The discovery-of-evidence issue previously was raised in court by attorney John Hemenway, who was threatened by a federal judge with sanctions for bringing a court challenge to Obama's presidency.
Hemenway is serving in emeritus status with the SafeguardOurConstitution website. He brought a previous court challenge, now on appeal, on behalf of a retired military officer, Gregory S. Hollister, who questioned Obama's eligibility.
The Hollister case ultimately was dismissed by Judge James Robertson, who notably ruled during the 2008 election campaign that the federal legal dispute had been "twittered" and, therefore, resolved.
Robertson sarcastically wrote: "The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his commander in chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel's satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.
"The issue of the president's citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered and otherwise massaged by America's vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama's two-year campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court ("oy vey"!!)," Robertson wrote.
Then the judge suggested sanctions against Hemenway for bringing the case. Hemenway responded that the process then would provide him with a right to a discovery hearing to see documentation regarding the judge's statements – not supported by any evidence introduced into the case – that Obama was properly "vetted."
Hemenway warned at the time, "If the court persists in pressing Rule 11 procedures against Hemenway, then Hemenway should be allowed all of the discovery pertinent to the procedures as court precedents have permitted in the past.
"The court has referred to a number of facts outside of the record of this particular case and, therefore, the undersigned is particularly entitled to a hearing to get the truth of those matters into the record. This may require the court to authorize some discovery," Hemenway said.
The court ultimately backed off its threat of sanctions.
In a separate case, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals threatened sanctions against attorney Mario Apuzzo, but quickly backed off when he noted that under the rules of court procedure, being subjected to sanctions and penalties would give him the right to discovery in the case, possibly including Obama's birth certificate.
The Constitution requires a president to be a "natural born citizen," and, while the term is not defined in the Constitution, many legal analysts believe at the time it was written it meant a person born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents. Critics say Obama clearly does not qualify under that definition, since he has admitted in his book his father never was a U.S. citizen. Some legal challenges have argued he wasn't even born in Hawaii.
Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, has said there "definitely" are problems with Obama's Hawaii birth story.
"As of the time I was in Hawaii working in the elections office we had many people who were asking about the eligibility of Senator Obama to be president. I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu. There is no such form in Hawaii," he said.
Escorts him from preliminary hearing under guard to prevent communication WITH ANYONE, SPECIALLY THE PRESS
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin
FT. BELVOIR, Va. – A decorated military officer who is challenging – in military court – President Obama's eligibility to be president was taken into custody and escorted under guard back to Walter Reed Army Base today after a hearing, apparently so he could not talk to the press or his attorney about his case, according to his defense attorney.
The Army held a hearing today at Ft. Belvoir, Va., for Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who posted a YouTube video challenging the Army to charge him after he refused to deploy to Afghanistan again this spring because of his concerns that Obama is ineligible to be president, and that orders under his chain of command then would be suspect.
The hearing was on several charges of disobeying commands and "missing movement," and was held by Col. Denise Lind, who has been assigned to be the military judge in the case.
At the conclusion of the arraignment, Lakin was ordered not to speak with the press and was taken back to Reed under military escort, surprising and disturbing a civilian lawyer who has been working on his case.
"This was completely inappropriate. Col. Lakin was brought here and taken away from here as if he was a common criminal. He was prohibited from talking to the press for two minutes; he was prohibited from talking to anybody, even me," Paul Rolf Jensen said.
Jensen said he was not sure how long Lakin was being detained because the Army offered no explanation as to why he needed an escort after the hearing. Jensen did say he thought it was because the Army did not want him talking to the press.
There also now are several hearings scheduled in the case, starting with an Aug. 20 event that will deal with evidence in the dispute.
According to the court, a second hearing on Aug. 27 would be for government "objections" to the evidence, and Jensen said he expects opposition from the White House at that point.
That's because the strategy in the case will include requests for evidence that Obama is, in fact, eligible to be commander-in-chief, evidence that could come through depositions with Hawaii state records-holders – who presumably have access to Obama's original birth documentation if he was born there as he has written.
Two other hearings are set Sept. 2 and Sept. 14 in the case before the trial date of Oct. 13.
The 18-year Army veteran, decorated multiple times, is facing court-martial where, if convicted, he could get up to four years of hard labor in prison and be dismissed from the military.
Lakin refused orders to deploy to Afghanistan in April of 2010 because he believes that President Barack Obama has failed to demonstrate that he is constitutionally eligible to be commander in chief.
The five charges brought against Lakin can be found in articles 87 and 92 of the military uniform service code of conduct. The five charges read aloud in a packed courtroom were three counts of disobeying a lawful order, one count of missing a movement and one count of dereliction of duty.
As WND reported earlier, in June of 2010, Lakin and his civilian attorney Jensen were preparing for an Article 32 pretrial hearing where they hoped to present both testimony and evidence proving that President Obama is not a citizen of the United States.
However, all evidence in the case that pertained to the president, such as academic transcripts and his birth certificate on file in Hawaii, were banned by Army hearing officer Daniel Driscoll.
Driscoll issued an opinion that said only Congress and not a United States military judicial body should decide to use the president's credentials on file.
But that evidence dispute will come up again, Jensen has confirmed.
Lind noted that Lakin has the choice to either supply his own counsel at his own expense or be provided military counsel at the government's expense. Lakin actually took a third option, which was retaining both military and civilian counsel, which he is entitled to do.
Lakin also has the choice of being tried by a jury of five military officers, who would vote by secret ballot on his guilt or innocence. Alternatively, he could choose to be tried by the trial judge alone, who would determine the result.
Jensen deferred that choice for the moment, but believes it would be better if Lakin is tried by a group of his peers.
After Lind requested that Lakin submit his plea of guilty or not guilty, Lakin's attorney said "No plea."
"A motion to dismiss must be brought before the plea is entered, and after the proceedings are commenced," Jensen explained. "In that thirty-second period we didn't have time to bring the motion, but we will."
Asked how his client would plead, Jensen said, if the motion to dismiss the charges is denied, Lakin would plead not guilty.
The trial will now move to the discovery phase, where Jensen will again be making requests for President Obama's birth certificate and other relevant documents to support Lakin's case.
According to the Safeguard our Constitution website, which is supporting the officer, Lakin earlier released a statement that "I am not guilty of these charges, and will plead 'not guilty' to them because of my conviction that our commander-in-chief may be ineligible under the United States Constitution to serve in that highest of all offices."
Lakin is board-certified in family medicine and occupational and environmental medicine. He has been recognized for his outstanding service as a flight surgeon for yearlong tours in Honduras, Bosnia and Afghanistan. He was also awarded the Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan and recognized in 2005 as one of the Army Medical Department's outstanding flight surgeons.
The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
A number of challenges and lawsuits have been based on the constitutional requirement, some alleging Obama does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims.
Others say he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen of the U.S. and the United Kingdom when he was born, and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.
Complicating the issue is the fact that besides Obama's actual birth documentation, he has concealed documentation including his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.
Lakin is not the first officer to raise questions. Others have included Army doctor Capt. Connie Rhodes and Army reservist Maj. Stefan Cook. But Lakin is the first active-duty officer to raise the question.
In at least one of the earlier disputes, the Army simply canceled the orders rather than allow the argument to come to a head.
Lakin, who previously has served in Afghanistan, refused orders this spring to go again, "because the president refuses – even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary – to prove his eligibility under the Constitution to hold office."
Now Lakin is facing a court-martial and as part of his defense wants the information about Obama from the state of Hawaii.
"The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the Internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii's Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu," the foundation supporting Lakin's case confirmed.
"Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the head of that agency, has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the department's custody.
Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the department's records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii," the organization said.
"The United States Constitution requires that a person be a 'natural born citizen' to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a 'natural born citizen.'
An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health (is) an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama's constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008," the foundation said.
The issue of the Hawaii records has been a volatile point in the argument. The state of Hawaii has gone so far as to approve a law that allows the state to ignore repeated requests for documentation about Obama's birth.
The state's governor, Linda Lingle, just months ago told a New York talk-show host that it was an "odd situation."
"This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country," she said on the radio show. "So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue, and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this."
However, no news release from the state of Hawaii identified the birth location as Kapi'olani.
And Lingle's statement also was contradicted by Fukino, who reported, "No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii."
Critics also note that while the Obama campaign posted a computer image of a "Certification of Live Birth" online during the 2008 election run-up, the procedures at the time allowed such certifications to be issued on the sworn statement of a relative for a child not born in the state.
The American Patriot Foundation said the records have been the target of many civil lawsuits over Obama's eligibility. But the lawsuits all have been dismissed on procedural grounds, such as the "standing" of the plaintiff, and none has yet addressed the merits of the arguments.
"While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin's case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary," the foundation said.
The issue of Obama's birth "in Hawaii" also arose after he assumed the Oval Office when a letter was revealed that purported to be from the president claiming Kapi'olani as the place of his birth.
The letter, dated Jan. 24, 2009, was used by the hospital at a fundraiser but later concealed.
A photograph taken by the Kapi'olani Medical Center for WND shows a letter allegedly written by President Obama on embossed White House stationery in which he declares the Honolulu hospital to be "the place of my birth," The hospital, after publicizing the letter then refusing to confirm it even existed, is now vouching for its authenticity, but not its content. The White House has yet to verify any aspect of the letter.
"As a beneficiary of the excellence of the Kapi'olani Medical Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to your chorus of supporters," Obama purportedly wrote.
The letter was referenced by then-Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii, during the Jan. 24, 2009, hospital dinner. Kapi'olani has said officials "know" the letter is real, but hospital spokeswoman Keala Peters refused to corroborate the content.
As WND reported, Lakin posted the video of his challenge to Obama to document his eligibility March 30.
In his latest video, Lakin said the issue of evidence is important:
Lakin said Driscoll's decision made it impossible for him to present a defense at the proposed Article 32 hearing, so he was waiving the hearing and instead will use the time to prepare for a trial.
He cited a long list of "reasonable arguments" raising questions about whether Obama was born on American soil. He also pointed out how the "documentation" provided by Obama during his campaign, a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, until last year wasn't even recognized by the state of Hawaii itself for a number of uses. Also, officials in the state have refused to confirm its authenticity.
"Americans deserve answers, not a coverup," he said.
Lakin's attorney, Jensen, told WND that of the dozens of cases that have been brought to various courts over the issue of Obama's eligibility, Lakin's probably is the strongest.
Jensen expressed confidence that the necessary information will be obtained for the defense.
"This is a criminal case," he noted, with a possible punishment of several years in jail. "In order for a criminal defendant to defend himself in a criminal court he has to be given the opportunity to put on a defense.
"The records are relevant."
Jensen, in an earlier interview on the G. Gordon Liddy radio program, confirmed, "Every criminal defendant has to be allowed the benefit of doubt to discover information relevant or which may even lead to the discovery of relevant information that could support his case.
"It would be shocking to me that a defendant ... would not be permitted to discover information that would lend itself to proving his [case]," he said at the time.
The discovery-of-evidence issue previously was raised in court by attorney John Hemenway, who was threatened by a federal judge with sanctions for bringing a court challenge to Obama's presidency.
Hemenway is serving in emeritus status with the SafeguardOurConstitution website. He brought a previous court challenge, now on appeal, on behalf of a retired military officer, Gregory S. Hollister, who questioned Obama's eligibility.
The Hollister case ultimately was dismissed by Judge James Robertson, who notably ruled during the 2008 election campaign that the federal legal dispute had been "twittered" and, therefore, resolved.
Robertson sarcastically wrote: "The plaintiff says that he is a retired Air Force colonel who continues to owe fealty to his commander in chief (because he might possibly be recalled to duty) and who is tortured by uncertainty as to whether he would have to obey orders from Barack Obama because it has not been proven – to the colonel's satisfaction – that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen, qualified under the Constitution to be president.
"The issue of the president's citizenship was raised, vetted, blogged, texted, twittered and otherwise massaged by America's vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama's two-year campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court ("oy vey"!!)," Robertson wrote.
Then the judge suggested sanctions against Hemenway for bringing the case. Hemenway responded that the process then would provide him with a right to a discovery hearing to see documentation regarding the judge's statements – not supported by any evidence introduced into the case – that Obama was properly "vetted."
Hemenway warned at the time, "If the court persists in pressing Rule 11 procedures against Hemenway, then Hemenway should be allowed all of the discovery pertinent to the procedures as court precedents have permitted in the past.
"The court has referred to a number of facts outside of the record of this particular case and, therefore, the undersigned is particularly entitled to a hearing to get the truth of those matters into the record. This may require the court to authorize some discovery," Hemenway said.
The court ultimately backed off its threat of sanctions.
In a separate case, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals threatened sanctions against attorney Mario Apuzzo, but quickly backed off when he noted that under the rules of court procedure, being subjected to sanctions and penalties would give him the right to discovery in the case, possibly including Obama's birth certificate.
The Constitution requires a president to be a "natural born citizen," and, while the term is not defined in the Constitution, many legal analysts believe at the time it was written it meant a person born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents. Critics say Obama clearly does not qualify under that definition, since he has admitted in his book his father never was a U.S. citizen. Some legal challenges have argued he wasn't even born in Hawaii.
Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, has said there "definitely" are problems with Obama's Hawaii birth story.
"As of the time I was in Hawaii working in the elections office we had many people who were asking about the eligibility of Senator Obama to be president. I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu. There is no such form in Hawaii," he said.
Thursday, August 05, 2010
OBA-ABDULLAH-HUSSEIN'S MOSLEM DADDIES!
Obama's Muslim Daddies
By David Gutmann
The Israeli intelligence website DebkaFile has reported that Obama is now seriously considering an attack on the Iranian nuclear facilities. His change of heart is not, according to Debka, prompted by the Israeli Netanyahu -- whose nation is most directly threatened by Iranian nukes -- but by an ultimatum from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who told Obama that his nation could not tolerate Iranian WMD, and would develop its own if Iran was allowed to acquire them. In other words, Netanyahu's threat of a Middle Eastern conflict that could devastate Israel and escalate to all-out nuclear war carried less weight with Obama than the far less severe consequences threatened by the Saudis. Nevertheless, their threat moved them to the head of the queue. We know that Obama doesn't want a nuclear weapons arms race, but is he also afraid of offending the Islamic monarchs before whom he dutifully genuflects?
It is, finally, all of a piece. Obama once promised an even-handed approach to the Middle-Eastern conflict, but in practice his seeming neutrality has barely disguised a decidedly Pro-Arab and pro-Palestinian bias. Thus, without first taking serious steps to check Palestinian terrorism, he has pushed for the two-state solution that would inevitably lead to Hamastan, and the conversion of the West Bank into yet another launching pad for Katyusha missiles. In addition, Obama continually leans on Israel to sign a nuclear non-proliferation treaty that would cripple its major deterrent against an all-out attack by surrounding Arab nations. Smelling blood, those neighbors, now including the once-friendly Turkey, are becoming provocative and their terrorist residents are agitating for war. Angry because Israel would not stop building new housing for its growing population in Jerusalem, Obama went out of his way to publicly humiliate Netanyahu. He only relented and made nice when it became evident that his Israel-bashing was going to cost him many Jewish votes and much Jewish money.
Obama's evident bias has been much noted and much discussed. The rationalizers and explainers usually refer to the influence of his radical base at a time when Israel has become the Left's Little Satan. Others have pointed to his long-term associations with the noisily anti-Semitic Reverend Jeremiah Wright, as well as with his fellow Chicagoans, Rashid Khalidi and Ali Abunimah, both of them plausible academic propagandists for the Palestinian cause.
As a psychodynamic psychologist my tendency is to look into my research subject's early associations, particularly with parents and siblings, as well as with his current colleagues. Perhaps clues to Obama's notable Islamophilia can be found there. This search into Obama's past history uncovers my kind of psychologists's pay dirt. Thus, I am impressed to learn that Obama's Muslim father abandoned him and his mother to return to Africa, when young Barack was barely out of diapers. Nevertheless, in his heart Obama never abandoned his father. He is sometimes critical of the mother who, as a single parent, sacrificed to raise him, but not of the absent Obama Senior, to whom he devoted the recent book, Dreams from My Father. He sees his father as a rather tragic figure, of superior intelligence and large ambitions who temporarily held a high political office in Kenya, but who died a failure in his own eyes.
A note of unrelinquished longing for the absent father runs through the Dreams text, and is best summed up by a photograph of Obama and his father, taken on the one occasion when Senior Obama revisited his ex-wife and son in the States. Little Barack, only waist-high to his begetter, smiles rapturously at the camera as, with both hands, he presses his father's hand to his own breast. If a picture is worth a thousand words, this one is worth a full doctoral dissertation. It tells us of a passionate, unrelinquished but unrealized hunger for the absent father that -- judging from the recently published Dreams -- persists into the present.
Such data reveal a probable source of Obama's Islamophilia. My contention is that Barack still woos his Muslim father in the persons of the Muslim rulers that share his bitterness, and that he bows down to. He cannot ease his dead father's sense of failure, but he can alleviate the Muslim Daddy's crushing sense of inferiority towards the west and Israel. Thus, he assigns his head of NASA, who should be planning all-out for Mars, the major task of repairing the fragile self-esteem of the Arab scientific community: they are to be assured of their major contribution to our space program.
But this is token stuff. The Father's real therapy calls for an Islamic triumph over an ascendant Israel that has so often humiliated its Arab neighbors. Obama will not give his Muslim Daddies the destruction of the Third Temple; that would cost him too dearly in votes, treasure, and historic reputation. But he will give them if he can a castrated Israel, diminished to a Jewish Vatican City or Tel-Aviv DOT COM. He would give them an Israel guarded by resentful UN troops, an Israel without WMD, Israeli Dhimmis existing on Islamic sufferance amidst a hostile Arab majority.
Daddy would be so pleased.
By David Gutmann
The Israeli intelligence website DebkaFile has reported that Obama is now seriously considering an attack on the Iranian nuclear facilities. His change of heart is not, according to Debka, prompted by the Israeli Netanyahu -- whose nation is most directly threatened by Iranian nukes -- but by an ultimatum from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who told Obama that his nation could not tolerate Iranian WMD, and would develop its own if Iran was allowed to acquire them. In other words, Netanyahu's threat of a Middle Eastern conflict that could devastate Israel and escalate to all-out nuclear war carried less weight with Obama than the far less severe consequences threatened by the Saudis. Nevertheless, their threat moved them to the head of the queue. We know that Obama doesn't want a nuclear weapons arms race, but is he also afraid of offending the Islamic monarchs before whom he dutifully genuflects?
It is, finally, all of a piece. Obama once promised an even-handed approach to the Middle-Eastern conflict, but in practice his seeming neutrality has barely disguised a decidedly Pro-Arab and pro-Palestinian bias. Thus, without first taking serious steps to check Palestinian terrorism, he has pushed for the two-state solution that would inevitably lead to Hamastan, and the conversion of the West Bank into yet another launching pad for Katyusha missiles. In addition, Obama continually leans on Israel to sign a nuclear non-proliferation treaty that would cripple its major deterrent against an all-out attack by surrounding Arab nations. Smelling blood, those neighbors, now including the once-friendly Turkey, are becoming provocative and their terrorist residents are agitating for war. Angry because Israel would not stop building new housing for its growing population in Jerusalem, Obama went out of his way to publicly humiliate Netanyahu. He only relented and made nice when it became evident that his Israel-bashing was going to cost him many Jewish votes and much Jewish money.
Obama's evident bias has been much noted and much discussed. The rationalizers and explainers usually refer to the influence of his radical base at a time when Israel has become the Left's Little Satan. Others have pointed to his long-term associations with the noisily anti-Semitic Reverend Jeremiah Wright, as well as with his fellow Chicagoans, Rashid Khalidi and Ali Abunimah, both of them plausible academic propagandists for the Palestinian cause.
As a psychodynamic psychologist my tendency is to look into my research subject's early associations, particularly with parents and siblings, as well as with his current colleagues. Perhaps clues to Obama's notable Islamophilia can be found there. This search into Obama's past history uncovers my kind of psychologists's pay dirt. Thus, I am impressed to learn that Obama's Muslim father abandoned him and his mother to return to Africa, when young Barack was barely out of diapers. Nevertheless, in his heart Obama never abandoned his father. He is sometimes critical of the mother who, as a single parent, sacrificed to raise him, but not of the absent Obama Senior, to whom he devoted the recent book, Dreams from My Father. He sees his father as a rather tragic figure, of superior intelligence and large ambitions who temporarily held a high political office in Kenya, but who died a failure in his own eyes.
A note of unrelinquished longing for the absent father runs through the Dreams text, and is best summed up by a photograph of Obama and his father, taken on the one occasion when Senior Obama revisited his ex-wife and son in the States. Little Barack, only waist-high to his begetter, smiles rapturously at the camera as, with both hands, he presses his father's hand to his own breast. If a picture is worth a thousand words, this one is worth a full doctoral dissertation. It tells us of a passionate, unrelinquished but unrealized hunger for the absent father that -- judging from the recently published Dreams -- persists into the present.
Such data reveal a probable source of Obama's Islamophilia. My contention is that Barack still woos his Muslim father in the persons of the Muslim rulers that share his bitterness, and that he bows down to. He cannot ease his dead father's sense of failure, but he can alleviate the Muslim Daddy's crushing sense of inferiority towards the west and Israel. Thus, he assigns his head of NASA, who should be planning all-out for Mars, the major task of repairing the fragile self-esteem of the Arab scientific community: they are to be assured of their major contribution to our space program.
But this is token stuff. The Father's real therapy calls for an Islamic triumph over an ascendant Israel that has so often humiliated its Arab neighbors. Obama will not give his Muslim Daddies the destruction of the Third Temple; that would cost him too dearly in votes, treasure, and historic reputation. But he will give them if he can a castrated Israel, diminished to a Jewish Vatican City or Tel-Aviv DOT COM. He would give them an Israel guarded by resentful UN troops, an Israel without WMD, Israeli Dhimmis existing on Islamic sufferance amidst a hostile Arab majority.
Daddy would be so pleased.
Wednesday, August 04, 2010
OBAMAVILLE 1 IN HAWAII.
ALAN NOTE: With his own brother living in a slum shanty in Kenya on less than $20 a month, millionaire Obama does not care enough to help him out! Even with $50 a month! When it's his own money he is a stingy miser. when it is someone else's.
Considering how indifferent he is about his own brother (OK, half brother) i sit any wonder he could not care less about the homeless in his "hometown" Hawaii.
By Dan Nakaso
WAIPAHU » Pastor Joe Hunkin picked his way around rusted car axles, propane tanks and two-by-fours studded with bent nails to find a homeless encampment where people have been cooking and sleeping directly behind Waipahu High School, in an area that received unwanted national attention this month.
Hunkin walked past a pit bull puppy and peered over a makeshift shelter of tents and tarp hidden by koa haole and elephant grass, then pointed toward the high school's athletic complex barely a football field away.
"The school is right over there," Hunkin said last week. "This isn't right."
The strip of land is bounded by Waipahu High School on one side and the calming waters of Pearl Harbor's Middle Loch on the other, where the Navy's mothball fleet sits idle. It's the most visible portion of an enormous homeless encampment that stretches five miles over approximately 50 acres of city, Navy and state land that serpentines around Waipio Point Access Road, the Ted Makalena Golf Course and the city's Waipio Soccer Complex and back down to Pearl City in the opposite direction, said Beth Chapman, who uncharacteristically lost a suspect in the swampy brush last year after five straight days of searching the area with her husband, Duane "Dog" Chapman, and their bounty hunting family.
In an episode of "Dog The Bounty Hunter" that aired on the A&E network two weeks ago, the Chapmans mounted mo-peds and switched their SUVs into four-wheel drive to navigate the area, where they discovered about 60 different encampments, Beth Chapman said last week in a telephone interview from Canada, where "Dog" was on a publicity tour.
The Chapmans have waded into homeless encampments plenty of times before in the islands—but nothing like the area around the golf course and soccer complex where Beth got two flat tires and Duane's daughter, "Baby Lyssa," had to rock her SUV back and forth to escape a muddy patch.
"That's real jungle land back there," Beth Chapman said. "The foliage was 10, 12 feet high with paths that lead everywhere into moats with people walking around with machetes. If you're the criminal element, those are the best places to hide in. They've got that whole place mapped out. They know every nook and cranny and they know how to escape quick."
Doran J. Porter, executive director of the Affordable Housing and Homeless Alliance, believes more and more homeless encampments like the one behind Waipahu High School are springing up on Oahu as Honolulu police and city officials continue to push Oahu's homeless off of beaches and out of city parks.
"I don't know why it would surprise anyone that they've found these places," Porter said. "You get kicked out of one place, you have to find somewhere else to survive the night. ... And now their desperation is starting to show."
Girls at the Waipio Soccer Complex walked into the women's bathroom a few months ago and found a naked woman bathing in the bathroom sink, said Michele "Bud" Nagamine, who runs the 25-team Leahi Soccer Club that practices and plays at the soccer complex. Boys who went into the men's bathroom also found a naked man bathing in the sink, she said.
"It's an area removed from the main road," Nagamine said. "Things have been happening."
Scott Keopuhiwa, president of the Hawaii Youth Soccer Association, keeps track of problems at the soccer complex and has heard recent reports of homeless people washing laundry and dirty pots and pans in the bathroom sinks.
"That's an ongoing problem," Keopuhiwa said. "You want to make sure the kids are safe when they go to the restrooms. It's definitely a concern."
"Pastor Joe"—as Hunkin's called in Waipahu—has visited the site before, to implore the families living there to send their children to his shelter, the Lighthouse Outreach Center at Waipahu's Assembly of God Church.
"I said, 'Let me give the kids food,'" Hunkin said. "The homeless kids ride their bikes around there, but they never come to the shelter. My heart goes out for those kids."
Hunkin regularly detects the aroma of marijuana, but doesn't know whether it emanates from the homeless people or from delinquent school kids who also hang out in the area.
Chapman called the area a haven for chronic "ice" users.
Some had built multiple compounds out of plywood, or patched together tarps and tents. One person lived in a hollowed-out banyan tree, Chapman said, "and there was a cave that had a couch and carpet in it."
"There were thousands and thousands and thousands of places to hide in," she said. "Outside elements have definitely moved in and made it their home."
When he took over as principal of Waipahu High School last fall, Keith Hayashi began receiving reports of break-ins at the school's athletic storage shed.
At a time when all Hawaii schools are scrambling for funds, Waipahu High School lost saws, coolers, rubber trash cans, weed eaters, a half-dozen generators, a riding mower and a golf cart.
"We were getting hit left and right," Hayashi said. "We don't want to be replacing equipment when we can put our resources into instruction for our students."
School officials repeatedly called Honolulu firefighters when smoke would appear behind the school, which always turned out to be homeless people cooking on open flames, Hayashi said.
In February, state and city law enforcement officers swept the area behind the school and put up "no trespassing" signs.
"We didn't have any proof the homeless people were the ones who broke into our storage containers," Hayashi said. "I do know that once they cleared the area, we haven't had any break-ins since."
But with reports of homeless encounters at the soccer complex and evidence of new campsites behind his school last week, Hayashi worries about the upcoming school year.
"I am concerned," he said. "We need to be sure our students are safe and well accounted for."
It's the kind of situation that will only grow worse on Oahu as Honolulu's homeless continue to migrate away from beaches and parks, said Porter of the Affordable Housing and Homeless Alliance.
"We're not solving the problem," Porter said. "We're just shuffling people from one spot to the other and we're going to be seeing more of this."
Considering how indifferent he is about his own brother (OK, half brother) i sit any wonder he could not care less about the homeless in his "hometown" Hawaii.
By Dan Nakaso
WAIPAHU » Pastor Joe Hunkin picked his way around rusted car axles, propane tanks and two-by-fours studded with bent nails to find a homeless encampment where people have been cooking and sleeping directly behind Waipahu High School, in an area that received unwanted national attention this month.
Hunkin walked past a pit bull puppy and peered over a makeshift shelter of tents and tarp hidden by koa haole and elephant grass, then pointed toward the high school's athletic complex barely a football field away.
"The school is right over there," Hunkin said last week. "This isn't right."
The strip of land is bounded by Waipahu High School on one side and the calming waters of Pearl Harbor's Middle Loch on the other, where the Navy's mothball fleet sits idle. It's the most visible portion of an enormous homeless encampment that stretches five miles over approximately 50 acres of city, Navy and state land that serpentines around Waipio Point Access Road, the Ted Makalena Golf Course and the city's Waipio Soccer Complex and back down to Pearl City in the opposite direction, said Beth Chapman, who uncharacteristically lost a suspect in the swampy brush last year after five straight days of searching the area with her husband, Duane "Dog" Chapman, and their bounty hunting family.
In an episode of "Dog The Bounty Hunter" that aired on the A&E network two weeks ago, the Chapmans mounted mo-peds and switched their SUVs into four-wheel drive to navigate the area, where they discovered about 60 different encampments, Beth Chapman said last week in a telephone interview from Canada, where "Dog" was on a publicity tour.
The Chapmans have waded into homeless encampments plenty of times before in the islands—but nothing like the area around the golf course and soccer complex where Beth got two flat tires and Duane's daughter, "Baby Lyssa," had to rock her SUV back and forth to escape a muddy patch.
"That's real jungle land back there," Beth Chapman said. "The foliage was 10, 12 feet high with paths that lead everywhere into moats with people walking around with machetes. If you're the criminal element, those are the best places to hide in. They've got that whole place mapped out. They know every nook and cranny and they know how to escape quick."
Doran J. Porter, executive director of the Affordable Housing and Homeless Alliance, believes more and more homeless encampments like the one behind Waipahu High School are springing up on Oahu as Honolulu police and city officials continue to push Oahu's homeless off of beaches and out of city parks.
"I don't know why it would surprise anyone that they've found these places," Porter said. "You get kicked out of one place, you have to find somewhere else to survive the night. ... And now their desperation is starting to show."
Girls at the Waipio Soccer Complex walked into the women's bathroom a few months ago and found a naked woman bathing in the bathroom sink, said Michele "Bud" Nagamine, who runs the 25-team Leahi Soccer Club that practices and plays at the soccer complex. Boys who went into the men's bathroom also found a naked man bathing in the sink, she said.
"It's an area removed from the main road," Nagamine said. "Things have been happening."
Scott Keopuhiwa, president of the Hawaii Youth Soccer Association, keeps track of problems at the soccer complex and has heard recent reports of homeless people washing laundry and dirty pots and pans in the bathroom sinks.
"That's an ongoing problem," Keopuhiwa said. "You want to make sure the kids are safe when they go to the restrooms. It's definitely a concern."
"Pastor Joe"—as Hunkin's called in Waipahu—has visited the site before, to implore the families living there to send their children to his shelter, the Lighthouse Outreach Center at Waipahu's Assembly of God Church.
"I said, 'Let me give the kids food,'" Hunkin said. "The homeless kids ride their bikes around there, but they never come to the shelter. My heart goes out for those kids."
Hunkin regularly detects the aroma of marijuana, but doesn't know whether it emanates from the homeless people or from delinquent school kids who also hang out in the area.
Chapman called the area a haven for chronic "ice" users.
Some had built multiple compounds out of plywood, or patched together tarps and tents. One person lived in a hollowed-out banyan tree, Chapman said, "and there was a cave that had a couch and carpet in it."
"There were thousands and thousands and thousands of places to hide in," she said. "Outside elements have definitely moved in and made it their home."
When he took over as principal of Waipahu High School last fall, Keith Hayashi began receiving reports of break-ins at the school's athletic storage shed.
At a time when all Hawaii schools are scrambling for funds, Waipahu High School lost saws, coolers, rubber trash cans, weed eaters, a half-dozen generators, a riding mower and a golf cart.
"We were getting hit left and right," Hayashi said. "We don't want to be replacing equipment when we can put our resources into instruction for our students."
School officials repeatedly called Honolulu firefighters when smoke would appear behind the school, which always turned out to be homeless people cooking on open flames, Hayashi said.
In February, state and city law enforcement officers swept the area behind the school and put up "no trespassing" signs.
"We didn't have any proof the homeless people were the ones who broke into our storage containers," Hayashi said. "I do know that once they cleared the area, we haven't had any break-ins since."
But with reports of homeless encounters at the soccer complex and evidence of new campsites behind his school last week, Hayashi worries about the upcoming school year.
"I am concerned," he said. "We need to be sure our students are safe and well accounted for."
It's the kind of situation that will only grow worse on Oahu as Honolulu's homeless continue to migrate away from beaches and parks, said Porter of the Affordable Housing and Homeless Alliance.
"We're not solving the problem," Porter said. "We're just shuffling people from one spot to the other and we're going to be seeing more of this."
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