Courtesy texasdarlin.wordpress.com
Following up on previous posts in the past couple of days about Barack Obama’s “birth certificate,” here and here, I became more curious about Barack’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (known as “Ann”), and spent several hours reading about her. In particular, I was searching for information about the circumstances surrounding Barack’s birth.
It seems reasonable to ask at this point: Is it possible that Barack Obama, Ann’s son, was born someplace besides Honolulu?
Alan note: Obama's brother, sister and Kenyan grandmother all insist he was borh in Kenya,
Note the Birth "document: provided by "Obama" (or on his behalf) shows it was FILED Augus 8th FOUR days after his given birthdate of August 4th.
This matches reports his mother was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy (normal restriction to avoid births during a flight), had her baby, flew immediately to Hawaii and LATE registered his birth as if it had taken lace in Hawaii.
Here’s a rough sketch of the timeline I’ve pieced together so far based on information available on the Internet, but I could use some help filling in the blanks. Questions are presented at the end.
Spring/Summer 1960 – Ann Dunham, at the age of 17, moves with her parents from Mercer Island, Washington following her high school graduation, to Honolulu Hawaii, where her father, Stanley, has a new sales job in a furniture store.
Fall 1960– Ann starts classes at the Univ. of Hawaii’s East West Centre, a well known center of leftist thought, and shortly thereafter meets Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan student, in a Russian language class.
Oct/Nov. 1960– Barack Obama Jr. is conceived.
Dec. 1960/Jan. 1961– Ann, now 18 years old, and Obama announce to their families plans to marry. Both the Dunham and Obama parents are unhappy with the news. By this time Ann’s mother Madelyn Dunham has become a bank president in Honolulu.
Feb. 1961– Ann reportedly marries Obama Sr., but it’s unclear where this took place, who was present, and whether the marriage is documented.
Aug. 4 1961– Ann gives birth to Barack Obama Jr.
Late Aug. 1961– Ann visits high school friends on Mercer Island with newly born baby Barack.
My QUESTIONS at this time focus on the circumstances surrounding Barack’s birth:
1. Where did Ann Dunham live while she was pregnant with Barack, especially the 6 months from Feb. to Aug. 1961? Reportedly her parents were embarrassed and upset about her pregnancy. Obama Sr. was reportedly living in a dorm at the time.
2. Where did Ann deliver Barack? His “birth certificate” doesn’t say, and I guess he’s lost the original? (Although, it’s very interesting to note that Obama provides details of his birth weight in Dreams From My Father — where did that info come from?)
Wikipedia and other sources say that Barack was born at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, but are there any records of this? (Wikipedia allows information to be added virtually "at will")
3. Why does Barack’s “certification of birth” say “Date Filed” at the bottom, when the other Honolulu birth certificate on the same form that we found says “Date Accepted”? (See them both here.)
4. Is it possible that Barack was born someplace outside Honolulu, perhaps someplace outside the country (maybe someplace closer than Kenya), and that Ann applied for a “late arrival” birth certificate after-the-fact, which the State of Hawaii apparently allows under certain circumstances?
5. Is it possible that leftist/Marxist foreign friends of Ann’s at the Univ. of Hawaii referred her to a location outside the US to complete her pregnancy and deliver her baby?
(Fascinating side-note: Ann became a serious student of Communist and Marxist theories back in high school thanks to some radical teachers and administrators at Mercer High).
6. Did Ann drop out of the University when she was pregnant? If so, for how long?
7. Does the fact that Ann was a minor when Barack was conceived relate to these events? What was the legal age for getting married in Hawaii in 1961?
8. Who was with Ann at the time she delivered Barack? Parents, Obama Sr., both?
9. Why did Ann travel to Mercer Island with her newborn, and did Obama Sr. or her mother accompany her?
10. Why hasn’t the Obama campaign made Ann’s mother and Barack’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham (now 84), available?
Don’t presidential candidates at least minimally introduce immediate relatives to the general public? It seems that Obama is treating his grandmother like a big mystery.
11. Why did Barack Obama make a big to-do about, and act as CO-SPONSOR for, legislation in early 08 that was introduced by his supporter Claire McCaskill resolving questions about McCain’s eligibility to be President?
Is it true (as a reader commented) that “the bill that Obama wanted didn’t have the military part in it” — meaning that Obama favored a law that would allow any citizen born outside the US to be eligible for POTUS?
Why did McCaskill, rather than a Republican, introduce this legislation?
NOTE: Some readers are confused. Citizenship is NOT the issue here (although some have suggested that Obama has dual citizenship).
The issue here is eligibility to be President based on the constitutional requirement that the President be natural-born.
In passing the legislation allowing children of the military born outside the US to be eligible, Congress has made an exception to the rule for John McCain’s benefit, but would it be constitutional for Congress to pass a law doing away with the natural-born reqirement all together?
Here are some more angles needing an answer:
Aug. 4 1961– Ann gives birth to Barack Obama Jr.
Late Aug. 1961– Ann visits high school friends on Mercer Island with newly born baby Barack.
QUESTIONS at this time focus on the circumstances surrounding Barack’s birth:
1. Where did Ann Dunham live while she was pregnant with Barack, especially the 6 months from Feb. to Aug. 1961?
Reportedly her parents were embarrassed and upset about her pregnancy. Obama Sr. was reportedly living in a dorm at the time.
2. Where did Ann deliver Barack? His “birth certificate” doesn’t say, and I guess he’s lost the original?
(Although, it’s very interesting to note that Obama provides details of his birth weight in Dreams From My Father — where did that info come from?) Wikipedia and other sources say that Barack was born at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, but are there any records of this?
3. Why does Barack’s “certification of birth” say “Date Filed” at the bottom, when the other Honolulu birth certificate on the same form that we found says “Date Accepted”? (See them both here.)
4. Is it possible that Barack was born someplace outside Honolulu, perhaps someplace outside the country (maybe someplace closer than Kenya), and that Ann applied for a “late arrival” birth certificate after-the-fact, which the State of Hawaii apparently allows under certain circumstances?
5. Is it possible that leftist/Marxist foreign friends of Ann’s at the Univ. of Hawaii referred her to a location outside the US to complete her pregnancy and deliver her baby?
(Fascinating side-note: Ann became a serious student of Communist and Marxist theories back in high school thanks to some radical teachers and administrators at Mercer High).
6. Did Ann drop out of the University when she was pregnant? If so, for how long?
7. Does the fact that Ann was a minor when Barack was conceived relate to these events? What was the legal age for getting married in Hawaii in 1961?
8. Who was with Ann at the time she delivered Barack? Parents, Obama Sr., both?
9. Why did Ann travel to Mercer Island with her newborn, and did Obama Sr. or her mother accompany her?
10. Why hasn’t the Obama campaign made Ann’s mother and Barack’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham (now 84), available? Don’t presidential candidates at least minimally introduce immediate relatives to the general public? It seems that Obama is treating his grandmother like a big mystery.
11. Why did Barack Obama make a big to-do about, and act as CO-SPONSOR for, legislation in early 08 that was introduced by his supporter Claire McCaskill resolving questions about McCain’s eligibility to be President?
Is it true (as a reader commented) that “the bill that Obama wanted didn’t have the military part in it” — meaning that Obama favored a law that would allow any citizen born outside the US to be eligible for POTUS? Why did McCaskill, rather than a Republican, introduce this legislation?
NOTE: Some readers are confused. Citizenship is NOT the issue here (although some have suggested that Obama has dual citizenship). The issue here is eligibility to be President based on the constitutional requirement that the President be natural-born
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4 comments:
Excellent on obtaining a copy of another certificate of live birth. The one Obama's camp produced looks fake/doctored.
The questions you asked are excellent, especially about the McCaskill bill
Debbie Hamilton
Right Truth
Another thing, as you mention, where is his WHITE family? We haven't seen one member of his mother's side of the family? Do they not want to campaign for him? Could they answer some questions about his background?
Have they been muzzled by the Obama campaign staff??? Just asking. And what happened to his mother?
Debbie Hamilton
Right Truth
Obama's mother died of cancer in 1995, and his white grandmother is hidden away "somewhere in Hawaii". Strange, indeed.
Great post, very thorough research!
I find it VERY strange for a new mother to travel with her "couple of weeks"-old baby.
There's a video of Stanley Ann's friend on Youtube talking about the visit in late August.
It has been suggested that Ann came to Canada to deliver so she WOULD not have an American birth. That should surely be easy to check. Wonder why the dems don't do this, if he really was born in Hawaii and put the matter to rest. Maybe cause he is not a citizen and they know it.
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